Is Tannehill vs Griese truly a thing trending?

It truly must be the offseason and some serious dead time.  To much of my surprise, people on Dolphins twitter are LITERALLY  ARGUING about who is better.  Bob Griese or Ryan Tannehill?

First let me start off by saying is this really a thing?  Come on people, this is like comparing Steve Young to Jeff Garcia.  But since this is a trending topic, lets debate this:

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Bob Griese Career Stats:

161 Games
1,926 Completions
3,429 Attempts (56.2% career)
25,092 yards
994 yards Rushing
192 TD
172 INT

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Ryan Tannehill Career Stats:

77 Games
1,653 Completions
2,637 Attempts (62.7% career)
18,455 yards
1,065 yards Rushing
106 TD
66 INT

So when you look at this, many of you may say "Well, obviously Ryan is better based on pure stats".  In any conversation about current and former players, it has to be about the era in which they played.  Griese played in an era where throwing was a commodity, not a necessity.  You can see that based on how many attempts he had through 161 games (21.2 passes per game).  Compared to Tannehill, (34.2 passes per game). 

Don't let this article be misconstrued.  I am a huge Ryan Tannehill fan and want him to succeed the best he can.  But people comparing him to Griese?  Griese was 92-56-3, Tannehill is 37-40.  Griese also helped the team win its two Super Bowls, Tannehill has yet to reach the playoffs (although he helped the team get there in 2016, unfortunately he was hurt as we all know).

On top of that, Bob Griese is a member of the pro football hall of fame.  Tanehill COULD get there one day, but he needs to make a massive turnaround, beginning this season. 

I can't believe this is an article that needed to be written.  Griese vs Tannehill shouldn't be anything to argue about on who is better.  Griese has done a ton for this team, and has the rings and the wins to prove it.  While Ryan Tannehill is our current starter, the excuse book needs to be burned.  He needs to put up or shut up.  If 2016 was any indication of what Tannehill's potential is, he should have a boom season, not a bust.   As for the final argument of this conversation, Tannehill can etch his name as one of the best QB's for this franchise, but it needs to start with wins and playoff appearances.  Until then, there is no argument Griese was better for this franchise.

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  1. I absolutely love Bob but lets not forget he also had Don Shula for his entire career and Bob Kuechenberg, Mercury Morris, Larry Csonka, Paul Warfield, Jim Langer, Larry Little, Jim Kick, Manny Fernandez, Jake Scott, Bill Stanfill, Dick Anderson, Nat Moore, Duriel Harris, Bob Baumhower, Doug Betters and Kim Bokamper among many others. In the end I wonder how many hall of famers Ryan will have played with

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    1. My thoughts as well.

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  2. Griese was an average to slightly above average QB who greatly benefited from having a great offensive line, a HOF receiver in Warfield and one of the toughest RB's of all time in Larry Csonka as well as Kiick and Morris. The 1972 undefeated season is a perfect example. Griese went down for the regular season (and one playoff game) and the Dolphins didn't miss a beat. Old geezer Earl Morrall won 10 straight, including the 1st round playoff game against the Browns. The Dolphins also had a better scoring average with Morrall, scoring 28 ppg as opposed to Griese at 24 ppg.
    After Csonka, Kiick and Warfield left, Miami missed the playoffs 3 straight years. In 1978, Miami started 5-2 behind Don Strock before Griese returned from injury and they made the playoffs as a wild card team and were promptly thumped at home by Houston.
    Ryan Tannehill has never had anything near what Griese had to work with. Not even close. The comparisons are fair in my opinion.

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  3. This is why I am not on Twitter.

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  4. Bob also called his own plays. He is far superior to RT.

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    1. As did most QB's back in those days. Why? Because offences were not as complex as they are today. And besides, how hard was it to call for a handoff to Csonka, Kiick or Morris most of the time?
      Far superior? I don't think so

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  5. I think Tannehill is a good "game manager" type QB who can make the big play when needed, but anyone who thinks he is comparable to Griese obviously didn't watch Griese play. Griese was a winner, was calm under pressure, and a leader.

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    1. Really? Obviously? I'd be willing to bet I watched him more than most. If he was so good, why couldn't he carry the team after Csonka, Kiick and Warfield left? And when they did return to the playoffs in 1978, it because they lucked into a pro bowl season from Delvin Williams. And then in 1979 Csonka returned and they made it to the playoffs again.
      The 2 super bowl wins were ALL on the defense and Larry Csonka. Only 7 points allowed in each game? Griese threw what? A total of 18 passes between both games?
      Has Ryan Tannehill EVER had an offensive line as good as Griese had? Not even close. Has Tannehill EVER had a compliment of back like Csonka, Kiick and Morris? Not even in the vicinity. Has he EVER had a WR like Paul Warfield? nope! Has he ever been blessed with a defense such as Miami had back in those day? Any defense he has had couldn't carry the jock strap of the D back in those days.

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  6. Csonka was one of my all time favorites.

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